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Posted by: Doug Lester (66.32.69.31) on February 28, 2003 at 19:22:38

Location: Atlanta

In Reply to: Al you can meet............... posted by ICP 2003 on February 27, 2003 at 18:24:38:

How about an "unprofessional atmosphere versus an unprofessional approach? In my view, there is one helluva difference. Certainly an inexperienced young lady meeting someone in a mall and going off with them or meeting them later with the hope of fame and riches in their mind can be a very bad mistake. But that happens every day of the week in every shopping center in the country, with nothing to do with photography. Women meet men in a varietry of circumstances and on occasion it works out very badly. Most of the times it is a social situation, but sometimes the predator poses as a photographer, but don't blame the venue in which they meet.

Marilyn Monroe was "discovered" walking down a street in Los Angeles, by a photographer. He introduced himself and gave her a business card and invited her for a test shot at his studio. She later went to his studio for the "test' shoot asnd he sent the photos to a movie studio at which he had serious contacts and the rest is history. There is a vast difference between an "unprofessional atmosphere" and an "unprofesional approach". In past years, I approached countless potential models in restaurants, taverns, on the street, in shopping malls, at parties and at every other imaginable place. I approached them with a quality business card, explained my interest in photographing them, asked them to contact me if interested and went on my way. I asked them nothing about themselves, not even their name. For example, many years ago I met the lady in the attached photo in a video rental shop in which she worked. We ended up working together off and for a good two years.

Now I rarely approach potential models, more than enough see my site and contact me via the net, but if I saw someone who interested me in one of the "unprofessional atmospheres" listed above, I wouldn't hesitate to introduce myself and offer a business card. Actually there is a lady working in a local QuickTrip market who I plan on introducing myself and making an offer as soon as I can catch her without a bunch of customers around.

Don't fear appraoching anyone, anywhere, anytime, under any circumstances. Just be "professional" and non threatening in your approach; express your interest and go away. Leave the next contact to the lady (or guy). If they are interested, let them bring a chaperone/ escort to the meeting. E$xpect rejection, but don;t press the issue, leave it up to her. Predators want their victim to go away with them or to meet them alone in a private location; separate yourself from the predators by allowing or encouraging them to bring an escort. Don't make unrealistic promises such as making them a star, just offer to photograph them.

There are no unprofessional atmospheres, just unprofessional approaches.

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: How about an "unprofessional atmosphere versus an unprofessional approach? In my view, there is one helluva difference. Certainly an inexperienced young lady meeting someone in a mall and going off with them or meeting them later with the hope of fame and riches in their mind can be a very bad mistake.  But that happens every day of the week in every shopping center in the country, with nothing to do with photography. Women meet men in a varietry of circumstances and on occasion it works out very badly. Most of the times it is a social situation, but sometimes the predator poses as a photographer, but don't blame the venue in which they meet. 

: Marilyn Monroe was "discovered" walking down a street in Los Angeles, by a photographer. He introduced himself and gave her a business card and invited her for a test shot at his studio. She later went to his studio for the "test' shoot asnd he sent the photos to a movie studio at which he had serious contacts and the rest is history. There is a vast difference between an "unprofessional atmosphere" and an "unprofesional approach". In past years, I approached countless  potential models in restaurants, taverns, on the street, in shopping malls, at parties and at every other imaginable place. I approached them with a quality business card, explained my interest in photographing them, asked them to contact me if interested and went on my way. I asked them nothing about themselves, not even their name. For example, many years ago I met the lady in the attached photo in a video rental shop in which she worked. We ended up working together off and for a good two years. 

: Now I rarely approach potential models, more than enough see my site and contact me via the net, but if I saw someone who interested me in one of the "unprofessional atmospheres" listed above, I wouldn't hesitate to introduce myself and offer a business card. Actually there is a lady working in a local QuickTrip market who I plan on introducing myself and making an offer as soon as I can catch her without a bunch of customers around. 

: Don't fear appraoching anyone, anywhere, anytime, under any circumstances. Just be "professional" and non threatening  in your approach; express your interest and go away. Leave the next contact to the lady (or guy). If they are interested, let them bring a chaperone/ escort to the meeting. E$xpect rejection, but don;t press the issue, leave it up to her. Predators want their victim to go away with them or to meet them alone in a private location; separate yourself from the predators by allowing or encouraging them to bring an escort. Don't make unrealistic promises such as making them a star,  just offer to photograph them.

: There are no unprofessional atmospheres, just unprofessional approaches.


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